WHY I NO LONGER MUSH WITH GREENE VALLEY DOG DRIVERS
(And why they may be wrong - or right - for you)
This question keeps on coming up again and again when I talk to people
about scootering like stubborn indigestion. I have decided to add a web
page to explain why I no longer mush with the Green Valley Dog Drivers
so that people can quit asking.
I started mushing with the Greene Valley Dog Drivers back in about
2005, the result of an invitation I received while exercising my collie
Suki in the Greene Valley dog park. I mushed with them for two full
seasons (during which time I wrote and maintained their web page), and
was abruptly asked to leave early in the third season. The facts
are simple: my friend Roxanne (presently working at Wiggles and Wags as
a dog trainer) called me during the week and asked if I would let her
collie Onchu pull my custom 3 wheeled scooter as a one-off thing. Onchu
had just finished physical therapy, and was still timid about using his
previously injured muscle. I suggested she bring him to the area where
the GVDD was training. We worked well away from the other dogs. I
hooked Onchu up to my scooter, and baited him to get him to pull (that
means I offered him treats... to get the treat he had to pull).
Typically I did not work with drop-ins, but in this instance I did,
since Roxanne was coming specificallly to work with me. She is an R+/P- trainer and would not allow anyone but me to work her dog. Roxanne was very satisified with the session and thanked me.
No one had complained to me about my training previously. No one said
anything to me at that session. Two days later, however, I received
email from one of the founders (who had not been present at that
session). I was told that my training methodology was unsafe,
ineffective, and unacceptable. I was asked to leave, which I did. I
agreed to remove my name from the website for the events I had attended
with the GVDD, and merely requested that my name as author of the
website be retained for as long as the website was used. This request
was denied. They continued to use my code for their website for several
months, after which it was replaced. I was pretty upset about that, but
decided to not shut down the website for copyright infringement since -
after all - the GVDD had really gotten me interested in mushing in the
first place. The subsequent website
contained none of my intellectual property, so the matter became moot.
The Greene Valley Dog Drivers do not abuse dogs. In the two plus years
I trained with them I never saw anything that even remotely approached
abuse. They train using traditional R+/P+
techniques. This style of training is still quite prevalent in mushing
circles, far more so than the R+/P- techniques I use. R+/P-
training (sometimes inaccurately called "clicker training") has gained
substantial ground in some dog sports like agility, where it is now
more popular than R+/P+ training. As I said, however, it is still rare
among mushers (at least in the midwest). I know there are some very
successful mushers out west using R+/P- training.
So, where should you go for your training?
The GVDD will take a new dog and put it in a line with half a dozen or
more well trained dogs, and go for a run. This works very well for some
dogs (that is how my collie Suki started) but very poorly for others.
When it works well it accomplishes in a few minutes what it normally
takes us one or two sessions to accomplish. When it works poorly it can
poison the sport for your dog. This is not a disaster - you can usually
eventually undo any negative consequences - but it is not desirable.
We will typically bait a dog to get it to pull, at least at first. The
food is quickly faded (meaning, we don't use food for long). Pulling
has to be self-rewarding to be successful. Dogs are generally
encouraged to learn to pull alone at first. Team size is almost never
larger than 2 ... which means that if a dog does not want to pull, the
team is going nowhere. This can be very frustrating for the humans,
forcing us to use our brains to try and figure out WHY the dog does not
want to pull. The answer can be something simple: for example, in one
case, the dog I was handling was used to jogging with it's owner. Once
I learned that, I tried jogging with the dog while it pulled. Once the
dog started pulling I was able to drop out, and the dog continued to
pull. In minutes, pulling had become as rewarding for the dog as
jogging. Success without coersion.
The folks running GVDD are not evil. In fact, they all love dogs and
would not do anything to deliberately harm a dog. The founders have all
been involved with rescuing huskies.They have successfully trained or
help train a substantial number of dogs (mostly husky / husky crosses,
but other breeds as well) using traditional training techniques, but
are uncomfortable in the extreme with new training styles. They have
traditionally focused on large (6 or more) dog teams. Practices
generally start at 6:30 AM.
We are also not evil. We also love dogs, have also been involved with
various rescues, and have also trained a significant number of dogs to
pull, including huskies, mals, collies, goldens, samoyeds, and
undefinable mutts. We are open to all (non-abusive) training styles,
although most of us use R+/P-. We focus on very small team sizes
(1 or 2 dogs). Our practices tend to start later in the day, usually at
9:30 AM. As a consequence, our season runs a few weeks shorter since by
9:30 the sun has already started heating things up.
You are welcome (at least as far as I am concerned) to try out both.
Members live in the same area, belong to the same organizations (ISDRA
and others), but have different training philosophies.
The Greene Valley Dog Drivers were invited to comment on this before I published it but declined.